Cannabis, Hot Flashes & Hell-Raising for Women Over 50 | Upside Down

Queenie and TT log into another remote session and immediately spiral into the most relatable midlife chaos imaginable — fuzzy backgrounds, weird camera angles, pillow-height politics, and the kind of brain fog that makes you wonder why you opened your laptop in the first place. A sharp, funny episode about navigating tech, memory, and midlife womanhood with zero shame and maximum humor.

Upside Down — Full Episode Description

If you’ve ever opened Zoom and instantly questioned your lighting, your height, your camera angle, your memory, your background, and your entire existence… welcome home. In “Upside Down,” Queenie and TT dive headfirst into midlife mayhem: remote-recording fails, blurry backgrounds, elevation mysteries (those cursed pillows), and the everyday absurdities that come with being a grown-ass woman in 2025.

The episode kicks off with the Great Pillow Height Discrepancy, sending the pair into a hilarious investigation of why TT suddenly looks like she’s broadcasting from Mount Olympus while Queenie appears at sea level. From there, the duo battles tech struggles, forgotten topics, shifting backgrounds, and the type of midlife brain fog that feels universal, unavoidable, and occasionally hysterical.

What emerges is pure Closet Disco Queen energy: quick wit, warm connection, and the kind of unfiltered honesty that makes listeners feel like they’re right there in the digital trenches. Whether you’re here for the midlife humor, relate to women navigating tech problems and memory lapses, or just want a comforting, funny podcast for women over 50 — this episode hits the sweet spot.

If you love shows that mix comedy, real talk, and tiny triumphs, this one will feel like a hug… and a side-eye… wrapped in laughter.

⭐ What We Cover

• Why TT is suddenly three pillows taller — and why Queenie refuses to adjust
• The blurry background battle: tech vs. midlife women everywhere
• Relatable memory lapses and “Wait… what were we talking about?” moments
• Tech frustrations, remote-recording

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Welcome to the Closet Disco Queen Pot-Cast, a comedy podcast with music and pop culture references that keeps you laughing and engaged. Join our hosts, Queenie & TT as they share humorous anecdotes about daily life, offering women's perspectives on lifestyle and wellness. We dive into funny cannabis conversations and stories, creating an entertaining space where nothing is off-limits. Each episode features entertaining discussions on pop culture trends, as we discuss music, culture, and cannabis in a light-hearted and inclusive manner. Tune in for a delightful blend of humor, insight, and relatable stories that celebrate life's quirks and pleasures. Our Closet Disco Queen Pot-Cast deals with legal adult cannabis use and is intended for entertainment purposes only for those 21 and older

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Transcript

TT (00:33)
noticed that you just have a dark background now. Blurred, should I blur?

Queenie (00:35)
I blurred.

I'm blurred. Now I, my, noticed I've got, because of where I'm sitting, because I thought I was going to use a microphone, it's such a wide angle. It I guess over there that.

TT (00:46)
Mm-hmm.

⁓

gotcha, gotcha. Okay.

Queenie (00:57)
That's all.

I can put another background.

TT (01:00)
I

was just wondering if I should do the same thing.

Queenie (01:05)
No, whatever, whatever you would like. I feel like I'm lower than you are. Are you high? Are you high?

TT (01:09)
floats your boat.

I'm good. This is fine.

My hi, yes I am. I

sat on a pillow this week because you couldn't see my TT last week very well.

Queenie (01:22)
They sing?

I'm like, hello?

sitting a little, whoa, no, but I have not. I've altered my height and my laptop is on my stand in the same fashion that it always is. ⁓

TT (01:35)
You are.

Well, the thing is...

I think it's that your laptop is lower than mine.

I have mine raised up.

Queenie (01:51)
I think it's your pillow.

TT (01:54)
I could be. Because, okay, I want to be.

Queenie (01:55)
Your ass pillow You just want to

flash your TT. Your TTs!

TT (02:12)
Would you like me to lower myself?

Queenie (02:17)
No! I just amused myself, it was... Don't lower yourself for me.

TT (02:19)
Yeah.

there.

What you make me do?

Queenie (02:41)
⁓ boy, now I can see your-

TT (02:42)
Are

we better now?

are you laughing at me?

Queenie (02:51)
Those are TTs

TT (02:56)
You're still back on that.

Queenie (02:58)
never left

TT (03:00)
you

Good thing I didn't have care for gum in this time.

Queenie (03:12)
Okay.

You took half? so you're in full control.

TT (03:20)
Well, they were 25 milligrams each, Yeah. It's my usual.

Queenie (03:22)
okay.

Well, we better back up a little bit. Hello, T.T. ⁓ how are you?

TT (03:43)
Hello Queenie.

I'm well thanks. I'm happy. There you go. Yes. Moi aussi.

Queenie (03:48)
I you I certainly am. I feel good.

even though we had some significant technical difficulties that delayed our podcasting by about... but we're in fine form now, gave us just enough time to ripen.

TT (04:05)
Yes, we did. 45 minutes. Yeah.

Yes, it's, the THC is flowing through our bloodstreams.

Queenie (04:20)
It's now the

It's magic hour Tis the time. So what have you consumed to today?

TT (04:26)
Well you know what? I dug into my cupboard and pulled out the big ass bag of gummies. I still have about a third left so I gotta start eating these babies. Yeah, but they're Indica vegan and it's made by the company Jelly and it's a Delta 9

Queenie (04:29)
You dug into your cupboard both of them.

The big ass bag of gummies.

You better.

Wow.

TT (04:51)
XP live resin passion fruit. I don't know what XP means though.

Queenie (04:56)
I know.

TT (04:57)
Express. I don't know. But yeah, so that's what I had. What did you have?

Queenie (04:59)
express express yourself yourself.

Those are the big ass, that's the big ass bag of gummies you got in,

TT (05:07)
in Wisconsin, Madison.

Queenie (05:09)
I

am just now I decided to use a little good vibes.

TT (05:17)
I have some of those. The semen drops.

Queenie (05:19)
drops

Yes,

from Cape of Cod. And they're tasty, acety.

TT (05:25)
Yes!

How much do you, how much of a dropper do you put in?

Queenie (05:32)
I just used two.

Two droppers. Now I put my contacts in. Yeah.

TT (05:41)
Two dropper, two full droppers?

Okay, I thought you were saying like there was .2, you know what I mean? No, no, two dropper fulls, okay. Because it tells you to start out with like half a dropper. And I didn't.

Queenie (05:48)
No, no, no. Heaven forfend. I've been forced to

I can't read

this at all and I have my contacts in.

TT (06:00)
that's that tiny bottle. Yeah.

Queenie (06:02)
And now itty bitty, I really cannot read.

So it is a syrup. Syrup. Serp. Good vibes, X.

TT (06:07)
Thurp.

X. There's another X.

Queenie (06:16)
another, it's a famous, it's a faboo letter for cannabis, that's for sure. So yeah, that's what I consumed.

TT (06:26)
Nice.

Queenie (06:27)
in my blueberry water.

So on a timely note, I read another very interesting article this week. ⁓ It's to come in very handy considering what we just experienced. So I read an article that was in Fast and Company.

TT (08:01)
Yes.

You did? ⁓ do tell.

Queenie (08:20)
So it turns out that forgetting stuff isn't a failing. It's our, it's literally our brain, how it works when we're overwhelmed or distracted. So there are four really simple science approved tricks to improve your memory. None of them involve Sudoku or kale or any of that shit. So here's the good stuff. One, say it out loud, even if you look a little unhinged.

TT (08:35)
⁓

You

Queenie (08:45)
Your brain is drowning in words, thoughts, half ideas and mental grocery lists. When you say something out loud, you separate it from the noise. A study found that speaking or even mouthing the thing you want to remember makes it more distinctive, like tagging it with a little neon post-it note inside your brain. So yes, talking to yourself isn't a red flag, it's neuroscience. Ask yourself whether you'll remember the thing. This is number two. Sounds like a joke.

TT (08:55)
Okay.

Queenie (09:15)
but it's real. Predicting whether you'll remember something makes you more likely to remember it. This works especially well for stuff you need to do later, what psychologists call prospective memory. Email the person, bring the form, praise the employee, turn off the curling iron so you don't burn the house down. Asking your brain, hey, will you remember this? It's like giving it a tiny pop quiz and your hippocampus wakes up and takes notes. Number three, rehearse for

40 seconds, literally 40 seconds. It literally...

TT (10:02)
you

Good night.

Queenie (10:24)
That's right.

dear.

TT (10:36)
not even sure what we're laughing at.

my goodness. ⁓

Queenie (10:40)
Yeah.

You stumble once and there you go.

TT (11:05)
you

my stomach hurts.

Queenie (11:11)
⁓ man.

It just kept going and going.

here. Let's see. can slow it down.

I don't know what that means. What's this? I can make it transparent!

I don't think that's necessary.

TT (11:33)
Bye!

Queenie (11:33)
Oh, let's see. What's this? is...

Where's Speed?

This is it.

I heard that.

TT (11:56)
my tummy.

Queenie (12:00)
Alright, let's see if I have to go up or down. whoa! I have to go up only.

TT (12:03)
What

the heck are you doing over there?

Queenie (12:06)
I'm trying to titrate this.

here we go. Okay. I just don't want to wet myself.

Is that asking too much?

TT (12:22)
It might be.

Queenie (12:24)
I know. Something tells me we're getting dangerously close. I'll pick right back up. Number three, rehearse it for 40 seconds, literally 40. Memory consolidation takes time, but not hours. 40 seconds, replay the thing in your mind. What someone said, what you need to do next, directions, steps in a process.

TT (12:29)
You

Okay.

Queenie (12:51)
The research shows this little replay dramatically improves your recall up to weeks later. 40 seconds less time than it takes to figure out where the hell you left your reading glasses.

Number four. Okay.

your eyes for two minutes and do nothing. This is our favorite because it basically government approved zoning out. A study found that two minutes of eyes closed rest can boost memory as much as a good night's sleep, which let's be honest is unlikely. This offline waking rest helps the brain consolidate whatever you just took in. You can close your eyes, daydream.

Pretend to meditate, stare into space like you just transcended this plane. Doing nothing equals remembering more. A win for lazy queens everywhere. So the big picture, your brain doesn't need discipline or structure. It needs tiny moments of intention.

TT (13:52)
Pretend.

Mmm.

Queenie (14:15)
You don't have

to memorize anything like a grad student hopped up on Adderall. You just need micro moves that make your brain pay attention. Say it, predict it, replay it, rest it. And suddenly you're remembering things like a functioning adult. Well, there you go. That's all it takes.

TT (14:34)
Well,

that's all I... Yeah, I guess like just putting a little hook in it somehow, right? Yeah. And then because it raises your awareness.

Queenie (14:43)
somehow being, I think, yes, I think.

Right. And I think being intentional, I am lazy. I've gotten really lazy about listening. So I'm introduced to someone and they say their name and I turn my head and boom.

TT (14:51)
Mm-hmm.

I usually that it usually happens to me. I can't I just it's like, you know, I find that you have to be listening not too carefully either. Because if you listen to care for me, if I if I like so absorbed in something. I can't know if I'm super absorbed in something, right? I'm like, I'm there, I'm in it, and then I can't remember it later.

Queenie (15:07)
You it's like you turn your head and say, was their name?

You look freakish.

Excuse me.

Really?

TT (15:36)
Doesn't that happen to you?

Queenie (15:38)
I don't know what would that be called? Sublimation or?

projection

TT (15:47)
Insanity.

Queenie (15:49)
I project myself into your-

TT (15:50)
Yeah, I don't know. It's more like...

I'm so.

Queenie (15:59)
enmeshed enmeshed

TT (16:00)
enmeshed

that I there's like I'm in it so like not like I can remember it.

Queenie (16:05)
So you're, you have the opposite challenge. You're, you, you become too, too enveloped. Whereas I don't even, I unfortunately have developed a very bad habit of just moving on. I was like, there's no, I don't even have a cassette in there to try to make a memory. Yeah.

TT (16:12)
Yeah. Yes.

Okay.

Eject

Queenie (16:30)
Right now, well, it's all direct.

TT (16:32)
Yeah.

Well, I have to say a few people that are kind of like that. kind of, know, tune. No, it's not. It's just like this isn't.

Queenie (16:37)
Well, it's not intentional, it's lazy. It's just lazy.

It's from sitting in front of the goddamn computer all day and not speaking to people. You know, it's, I think it has a lot to do with that. So I have to be more intentional. Then, and I think maybe incorporating one or two of these little hints might help.

TT (16:47)
That's true. Yeah.

Yeah, well, well, I mean, being intentional is the start of it. And the hints part is to remember it, right? So yeah, both of those things. Yeah,

Queenie (17:14)
We can only hope.

TT (17:17)
it's worth a try.

I have to tell you, I did a bit of humming this week. Well, I liked it.

Queenie (17:21)
Good! How did that go? Did you yourself

to wellness? Did you hum yourself to wellness?

TT (17:28)
Pardon me?

No, but it was very relaxing.

Queenie (17:32)
coming.

I'm glad to hear that, you know, I'm going to say this again, I totally forgot about the humming

TT (17:38)
Yeah.

Queenie (17:44)
So now I'm going to take my own advice and I'm going to be intentional. know, humming, I want to remember to hum. It only takes 90 seconds, once a day. How can you, you know, it's easy to do. We just have to be intentional again.

TT (17:48)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Right. I understand

it might be difficult if you're in a work situation, but.

Queenie (18:10)
No.

TT (18:12)
You start humming.

Queenie (18:13)
from

your car, you know, into the building.

TT (18:16)
yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm just thinking if you're at your desk and every day, yeah.

Queenie (18:20)
You it's

I haven't been in an office situation in so long, it doesn't.

TT (18:29)
I know, I know.

Isn't that lovely?

Queenie (18:32)
Yes, yes, yes it is. Because I don't think I'd be able to stand it at this point from what I hear. Things don't go well. It's, yeah, it's a whole different ballgame than what, you know, we experienced and or managed and or, you know, worked in.

TT (18:55)
Yeah, interesting.

Queenie (19:46)
T.T., do you have a story for us this week?

TT (19:46)
People don't, I do

and this, this kind of breaks my heart.

Queenie (19:50)
Make sure your prompter

is working properly. I said make sure your prompter is working properly so we don't have issues, further technical issues like someone ran into.

TT (19:53)
What's that?

⁓ gotcha.

Someone ran into Well, I have sad news Congress passed Or actually the Senate passed a spending bill that ended the record-long government shutdown, right? and then the house agreed but the price that everybody paid was that

Queenie (20:06)
Yes.

We'll take

TT (20:29)
they are prohibiting all hemp products. That's THC, CBD, and it's just, there are so many people that this is gonna affect.

Queenie (20:41)
Yeah, they're closing the loophole in the farm bill.

TT (20:45)
Yes, yes, yes. So yeah, we talked about that last week and it's, thing is, you're also banning CBD, which helps so many people, so many people, and that's non-intoxicating. So.

Queenie (21:02)
That's true.

The only, I guess, silver lining is that this doesn't take effect until next November.

TT (21:11)
They have, we have a year, yeah. So what they're talking about is tweaking it. And I think I'm hoping that what happens is they come up with some solid regulations regarding Delta 9 THC, but also that they allow for, and maybe this would be the time to talk about legalizing it completely.

Queenie (21:22)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Just look at the whole picture.

TT (21:38)
Yeah, yeah, why

why are why don't we just legalize it? So, but there are a lot of folks that are going to be hurting.

Queenie (21:46)
yeah.

as you've reported previously, Mitch McConnell, big opponent, but apparently Rand Paul was holding on until the dear bitter end. He was not going to sign off on it because of inclusion of the hemp language, because so many people in Kentucky are in the industry.

TT (21:57)
Right.

Queenie (22:08)
So there's the push pull. You've got two guys in the same party, same state, one pro, one agin' So there's going to, I'm sure we're going to see some heavy lobbying because breweries were getting ready to jump into the game also. Or if haven't already, I believe Coors maybe has or yeah, but they've, you know, they're already dipping their toe into the THC market. So.

TT (22:21)
lot of lobbying, lot of debating, yeah.

Hmm? Yep.

⁓ really? Okay.

Queenie (22:38)
Yeah, this is big bad news.

TT (22:44)
So last year in 2004, Minnesota state officials estimated that over 40,000 businesses were going to be selling products that are banned under the new legislation. Just in Missouri. Yep.

Queenie (22:58)
And that's just in Minnesota and Missouri. Wow.

TT (23:02)
Yeah, so extrapolate that out.

Queenie (23:05)
of the last 15 years, CBD has become mainstream.

TT (23:12)
It's become very mainstream. It's part of healthcare now.

Queenie (23:15)
You know, these seltzer, we've been talking about these seltzer drinks that you can order in mail, you know, these things that instead of liquor that you can pour into, make mocktails. This is big.

TT (23:20)
Mm-hmm.

Right. But again,

we're not objecting to some regulations like alcohol has on this stuff, There should be. There should be. Yeah, what's with that? That's why I'm hoping in this year, this interim year, that there will be some really good discussion and movement. Who knows? Who knows? Yeah.

Queenie (23:39)
Sure, it doesn't mean all or nothing.

because that's, it's a cudgel obviously, and it would

use to get this sneaky bill done

So it was unfortunate, but that was tucked in there. So, but least there is a year.

TT (24:08)
Right, right, right. ⁓ Speaking of seltzer.

Queenie (24:13)
Sorry.

No, this is just a sparkling water. Yeah, sparkling water. Raspberry nectarine. Just plain old wa wa Sorry about that. Sorry about that snap.

TT (24:18)
Okay.

That sounds delicious.

Queenie (24:33)
Well, we'll have to keep an eye on this for the next, Good lord

TT (24:35)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. guess,

you know, it'll be, well, we've got, I don't know, so much is up in the air. Who knows? We'll just, we will continue to follow.

Queenie (24:44)
Huh? Who knows?

That's right, who knows what? What may be coming down the pike next? Who?

TT (24:52)
Anyone can guess and there's absolutely no way to guess.

Queenie (24:54)
Anyone can guess.

not at all. So,

T.T., are you ready to play our next feature, which is, were they stone? Could they have been stone? Should they have been stone? Might they have been stone?

TT (26:43)
I am ready to play.

Queenie (26:45)
could have been stoned. Let me grab the list. I have it right here, right over here. I'm just gonna woohoo, see how that happens.

So I'm going to sure that we're, you know, paced properly. It just disappeared. TT.

TT (27:08)
I'm sorry.

Queenie (27:12)
I'm flailing

dear, okay, wait. dear, where can the matter be?

TT (27:17)
dear.

Maybe so long at the fair.

Queenie (27:26)
Okay. Alrighty. So if you recall, we are going to be playing this game. I know it's been a while since we announced it. I'm going to present two situations and TT has determined, did this really happen? Did someone under the influence or because of cannabis, did this event occur in real life or is it just bunk? Right?

TT (27:40)
is.

Queenie (27:56)
Hope now.

TT (27:56)
Right.

Queenie (28:00)
Now I can't remember, did I put the sound effects in last week? I think I did. I think I did. I think now that I'm.

TT (28:05)
think so.

Queenie (28:12)
Ready? Okay. Sheep in Rhydypandy Wales, allegedly went on a psychotic rampage after eating dumped cannabis plants. One sheep entered bungalow and left a mess in the bedroom. is that something that may have happened?

TT (28:13)
Ready?

Queenie (28:35)
Or does it sound a little too?

Sheepish.

TT (28:41)
I have to tell you, I was a little confused at first because I thought you were talking about whales.

Queenie (28:53)
⁓ I gotcha. Like the mammals And then I'm talking about sheep. I getcha. Why would you? Yeah.

TT (28:55)
like belugas.

like the mammals. And I thought, I, I, and then, and then, yeah, all of sudden we're talking about sheep. Well, I

was in my mind, I was trying to picture how whales would get a hold of it and, you know, and how do you, how does a whale go berserk? What, what does a whale do? They just.

Queenie (29:12)
and then where the sheep come from. Why would... ⁓

I don't even what to

I'm there's a mess, a whale got

He had gotten into some cannabis

TT (29:39)
you

Queenie (29:40)
Yeah,

okay. Okay. Are you clear?

TT (29:42)
What am I

supposed to be doing now? Okay, I'm supposed to be saying, is it real? Did the sheep actually get into, I don't think so.

Queenie (29:46)
What is it?

Did this really happen? Did sheep get into a bunch

of cannabis and then, you know, get into a bungalow and leave a mess? You don't think so. You don't believe that at all. ⁓ dear. dear. Well, I hate to tell you.

TT (29:55)
I don't think it happened.

I don't think so. No. No. No, I don't believe it.

Queenie (30:10)
Rhydypandy Wales sheep on cannabis went on a rampage in a Welsh village after eating the remains of a cannabis factory that were illegally dumped on the side of the road. Swansea County Councilor Lone Aeon Richard reported the incident saying the out of control animals were getting in people's gardens and one had even entered a bungalow, causing a mess in the bedroom.

There is already a flock of sheep roaming the village causing a nuisance. He said we could have an outbreak of psychotic sheep engaging through the village. The plants had been spotted near Rhydypandy Wales Richard said that there had already been an instance of sheep being killed in the village after straying into the road. I called the council officers to make sure it was reported to the police before

removing any evidence of what looks like the dumped remains of a cannabis growing establishment. But there you go. Well, unless you're one of the unlucky ones that just wandered in the road.

TT (31:12)
Wow. Lucky sheep.

That's true, yeah. Oof. Well...

Queenie (31:23)
ready?

Okay, so one down. Let's try for number two and see how we do. I didn't mean for that to rhyme. Next selection. A fire chief at a cannabis farm fire stared blankly into the camera and admitted, I inhaled so much smoke.

TT (31:29)
Okay.

goodness. I'm going to say that's true. Although they wear those respirator things, so that wouldn't work. Hold on. Let me think.

Queenie (31:58)
She's pondering it. Pondering it? Pondering it seriously.

TT (32:02)
you

Yeah, I don't think that's true. Because I think they'd have wasp... wasp-waiters on them. Wasp-waiters. Firemen.

Queenie (32:20)
TT believes that that did not happen, could not have happened because they were West Vuelta's.

Well, would you be surprised to know that it happened in 2014? Yes.

TT (32:38)
Another big fat goose egg.

Queenie (32:40)
Even the most humorless firefighter is no match for a house full of marijuana plants getting burned to the ground. These brave folks showed up to put out a fire at a grow house and they basically found themselves inhaling mass quantities of that sweet, sweet cannabis.

So there you go. Yep, and then the news crew was blessed with 10 seconds of astoundingly funny video of the fire chief staring blankly into the camera while admitting, I inhaled so much smoke.

TT (32:59)
Wow, well.

you

Queenie (33:17)
There you go.

TT (33:18)
That's great. It's very funny actually.

Queenie (33:22)
So that's that's that for this week, TT

TT (33:26)
That's for...

that's bad. I know. I'm not on my game. What can I tell you?

Queenie (33:31)
Let's go.

that brings us to our next segment.

TT (34:35)
SIGAMENT!

Queenie (34:37)
Segamenta PT, are you ready to discuss the fuck it list?

TT (34:43)
I yes I am.

Queenie (34:45)
well, I hope so because I think this is the most fun.

TT (34:49)
It's awesome.

Queenie (34:51)
You know, yes it is, but as I said before, I really, I think I gave myself a head start here. I've already committed to these things, so.

TT (34:58)
You

What have you got for us today?

Queenie (35:02)
This week, this is something that I have to commit to do because I'm horrible with this. I am going to commit to give away all the cute little craft supplies that I've gathered over the years thinking I'm going to paint or crochet or needlepoint or stained glass.

TT (35:25)
Needlepoint. Knit.

Queenie (35:32)
I included in knitting, crocheting, yeah, here and there, you know, but yes, all of that. No, it's got to go. It's got to go. It's got to go.

TT (35:41)
Mm-hmm. Ooh,

I am a craft supply hoarder myself.

That's true, I do. But I also, have paint that's, the other day I pulled out a thing of Elmer's glue and it was from when my kids were in school.

Queenie (35:57)
First of all,

Okay, almost as bad as saying second grade.

TT (36:04)
It's a Chucky on it

Queenie (36:06)
my god. You mean your son is going to be 40?

TT (36:10)
Yes, that one. It

also was kind of solid. It wasn't super hard. There was still some sticky stuff.

Queenie (36:16)
Mmm!

You could use it to make slime, maybe. That's of the main ingredients. wonder if vintage Elmer's glue would do anything. I bet you if you tried to sell that vintage Elmer's glue in the original bottle from 35 years ago.

TT (36:27)
Perhaps it is. Hi. Well.

⁓ maybe, yeah.

Yes, with Elsie the cow, not

Elsie. Elmer the cow it must be.

Queenie (36:47)
Help?

Elmer was Elsie's husband.

TT (36:53)
I didn't know that. You just made that up.

Queenie (36:55)
much

It makes sense, it? Was that corporation?

TT (37:01)
It They did look a little bit alike.

Let's see. Elsie was...

Queenie (37:09)
You know, we can ask somebody.

TT (37:12)
I remember what else he was, ⁓ his milk. was it? Borden, that's it, Borden. did you say that already?

Queenie (37:15)
She was born in a town.

I don't know. I did not think about it for 40 seconds.

TT (37:22)
Tch.

Okay, Elsie the Borden Cow. And an Elmer, the glue guy, but I don't know what, who made Elmer's glue, what company. Perhaps it was the Elmer Company.

Queenie (37:28)
and Elmer the Gloo.

was a

unless we need to find out.

I think it may have been Borden

TT (37:44)
Borden? No. A food place is going to make glue?

Queenie (37:47)
You don't

You just think it's random that two different companies had bovine representatives with their names starting in E? Okay. Whatever.

TT (37:52)
in.

Yeah, I do. I do.

It, well actually now that I think about it, the fonts were similar. They were like cursive.

Queenie (38:11)
I, I, there is someone we can ask.

TT (38:16)
Go for it.

Queenie (38:19)
I have to place.

Hey, Alexa, was Elmer's Glue owned by the Borden Company?

Yes, Elmer's Glue was originally the head of Borden Company. Borden introduced Elmer's Glue all in 1947, and the brand was part of Borden until 1999 when it was spun off as an independent company.

And is that why Elmer is a bull?

Yes, that's exactly why Elmer is a bull. When Elmer's glue was first introduced by the Borden Company in 1947, they used Elmer the Bull as the mascot because he was already established as the husband of Elsie the Cow, who was Borden's dairy mascot. He had a connection between the dairy products and the glue, even though the glue itself was made from a milk byproduct called casein rather than directly from cows.

TT (39:10)
What?

Queenie (39:12)
link them.

the milk to the glue glued them. no, no, no, no, no. Sorry.

You got it. Go away. I said link.

TT (39:30)
How did you know that Elmer was Elsie's husband? You weren't around in 1947.

Queenie (39:37)
Was I?

I just deduced it.

That's the Es and the, you know, the bovine thing.

TT (39:49)
Yeah,

they did look very similar.

Queenie (39:53)
I didn't know about the byproduct of the milk production.

TT (39:58)
no, no. It is kind of milky though, it's white.

Queenie (40:01)
There you

go. And that's why it's non-toxic. You can chug that stuff down and be fine.

TT (40:10)
might make you constipated.

Queenie (40:12)
I don't think it would be a good idea. Right. I don't suggest you ingest glue,

TT (40:16)
Elmer and El, Elsie.

Queenie (40:16)
yeah.

⁓ well. I still think you can get money for that, Elmer's little.

TT (40:21)
It's gone, I pitched it.

Queenie (40:24)
Without even checking. ⁓

TT (40:26)
without even looking. So checked. What are they bringing in on eBay?

Queenie (40:30)
I don't know, but vintage stuff is like, it's crazy because everything now is mid-century modern Yeah. Things that we grew up with and use daily on a daily basis are now considered vintage.

TT (40:35)
Vintage being what we grew up with? Yeah. Okay.

Well we had, we didn't have Elmer's glue so much as that school paste, the mucilage tape, yeah. And if it was old it would just like be like thick snot.

Queenie (40:49)
mucilage

But yeah, where was that from?

That kind of stuff I think came from nasty bits.

TT (41:01)
⁓

horses hooves, I remember hearing.

Queenie (41:04)
Well, it sounds like it, mucilage.

TT (41:07)
Right. Mucus. Don't you think mucus?

Queenie (41:08)
Yeah,

it was gross. That and the paste and that thing with that plastic and it always got glunky and then you try. That was gross. Elmer's glue. Paste sucked. Never wanted to use paste. Paste never lasted.

TT (41:14)
out.

yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah. Yeah.

That was all the rage.

Taste, right, right, right, right.

Queenie (41:36)
Never.

TT (41:36)
No,

everything fell. It dried up and turned yellow and everything fell. Yep. I did, I gotta say, I did kind of like the rubber cement. I like the smell when you open that little tin.

Queenie (41:39)
which is a big clump. Gross. Never work.

because

Yeah. Lethal. Lethal fumes, that's why.

TT (41:51)
It smelled good.

Queenie (41:57)
Huffing, like, that's it. Did you just use super aquanet just for the hell of it.

TT (41:59)
you

No!

Queenie (42:05)
my god, I don't know. Yes, but yeah, the craft supplies have to go. Who am I fooling? All good intentions, you know? It was cute when I was in my 40s. I had time to pretend.

TT (42:05)
Gwinnett.

Mm-hmm.

you

Queenie (42:21)
I think I'll run out of time. Yeah.

TT (42:22)
Well, you know, I always think I gave away all my knitting stuff

and in some sort of a flight of purging. And the other day I was like, I should start knitting again. I was like, I you know, this winter I could, well, we're watching basketball games or whatever. And then I was like, I can't buy all these supplies. Forget it. Forget it.

Queenie (42:45)
you inadvertently put that on your fuck it list.

TT (42:48)
You

⁓ Nope. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Queenie (42:52)
There's no turning back, my dear. There's no turning back. Once it's gone, it's gone. ⁓ my God.

So alright team. I hope everybody has a great week.

TT (45:27)
Yes, enjoy and we'll see you next week. Bye-bye.

Queenie (45:32)
Ta ta, TT.

Bye.

no, no,

TT (46:08)
Thank you.

I hope you have a lovely birthday. You'll be out with the classmates. How much better could it get?

Queenie (46:12)
I will be

We're eating at 5pm at the diner It's happened We've crossed the line. We're eating at the diner at 5pm. So, hmm. I think it's happened. I do believe.

TT (46:18)
OOOOD

Mmm, nice.

5pm. Okay, Beat the traffic.

I think you're right, we have. We've crossed the line.

Queenie (46:43)
No, we're meeting at bars or...

press.

So I'm looking forward to that.

TT (46:53)
Well,

have fun. Tell everybody I said hi. I'm sorry, I'm going to miss it.

Queenie (46:57)
Yes,

I will, will let everybody know, but this is, had our first meeting 11 years ago, 12 years ago at the diner.

TT (47:09)
Amazing. okay. Your anniversary dinner. Cool.

Queenie (47:11)
Yes, so here we

are.

Queenie AI (47:14)
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